The steak contain lots of energy, it is more concentrated than the muchrooms.
If the process produced more energy like sugar cane or used less resources water, land, etc, ethanol can make sense. As for me I prefer grits and cornmeal but not sure if they haven't processed out the valuable portions of that as well. The steak contain lots of energy, it is more concentrated than the muchrooms. You have only used up part of the oil to the get the gasoline. Mine has a label inside of the little door to the gas cap that says that it takes ethynol. But it becomes even more interesting when you iterate the process. Robert's argument would make solar cells a horrible source of energy at an efficiency of 0.
Again, this discussion is energy balance trivia and we are not getting anywhere, so I will sign off on this topic now. Kudos t othem for weaning us off OPEC! I pray that they are successful with their plant. Energy can not be created or destroyed, so really both are converted. In fact, I have been very clear in several posts on this thread that I do not think it is a good idea. Unfortunately Dragon people are not educated enough on ethanol to understand that there are other ways to make it from a variety of feedstocks other than corn. There is no reason to use ethanol for the production. It takes the equivalent of the energy in 6 gallons of ethanol to replace 1 gallon of gasoline. For calculating an EROEI, extraction and the imbeded energy content need to be taken into account.
Richard Branson doesn't claim to be an energy guru. With Shell's backing, Iogen is likely to be the first. That is, if this energy were not employed here it would not be tradable in the current Global Market, so much for Globalization, another perverse effect. Then tell me that a person like you and me drives the country's economy. Sugar cane may yield up to 10 units for each unit of energy input. By comparing a refining step for oil to a full life-cycle for ethanol. Of course, there is no future other than "a reduced energy society". It is thermodynamic lunacy to believe that the fermented waste product of a highly entropic industrial agriculture system could power that system and still leak enough energy to drive mom and the kids to the soccer game. We make it primarily out of natural gas that went into fertilizer and was used in the distillation.
Remember, this is coming from a government official involved in alternative energy. Thermodynamic laws is clear and notting like that can happen. They start with a post production energy source be it crude oil, coal, or natural gas and wind up with a liquid fuel, ethanol or gasoline. This is the same as putting the oil into ethanol production. Odd to think of the Dakotas as an energy producing region wind and ethanol. Second, ethanol is already part of the long term solution.